Heard from a fellow caravaner, Eric Zweig!
Here is what he looks like & what he has to say:

Stumbled on to your web site yesterday (can't remember how, exactly), and poked around for a while. Though I'm three years older than you and never actually got beaten up at school (though a girl did deck my in the eye with an ice-ball in grade two and left me with a huge shiner just days before my cousin's Bar Mitzvah), our life stories sound FRIGHTENINGLY similar.

I was obviously not in your kindergarten class, but I did spend the summers of 1979 and 1980 riding across North America on a bus with George Auerbach's Teen Caravan! Though I never did the famous "Southern California" trip (Western Canada/Dakotas in 1979 and Northern California to San Francisco in 1980) your snapshots -- and the people in them! -- are dead ringers for my old pictures (which, I think, are in a box in my mother's basement).

As I still live in Toronto, I have run into George Auerbach from time to time over the years but I haven't seen him in a while and don't know if he runs the trips anymore. He does, however, still live in the suburbs just north of the city. Though I occasionally run into a couple of people from my two trips, there is only one person (from 1979) that I still make an effort to see. In fact, my wife and I get together with her and her husband for dinner two or three times a year. I actually just phoned her before e-mailing you, and she said to ask if you remember George's dreaded "No Coupling Off" rule, though judging by your remarks, it sounds like you ignored it too!--Eric Zweig (Toronto, Canada)


Eric added some more color today on some of the trips that George Auerbach offered:

1. Southern California (your trip, and as I recall, "the one that started it all." I'd say at least half the people when I went on the Western Canada trip had been to Southern California the year before).

2. Western Canada (First offered in 1979, when I went. George orginally offered a short trip across Canada, or a longer trip that would dip down into the northern states. Turned out not enough people signed up for both, so it was merged into one trip. We had 33 people in all).

3. Northern California (I think this was also a first when I went in 1980. My guess is that George had to come up with something new to keep "old" campers coming back. Again, at least half the people I went with had been on the Western Canada trip the year before, and many of those were the same people who'd also been to Southern Cal. We had 42 people on the trip).

4. Baseball Trip. (I'm sure you must have gone to a ballgame or two on your trip. George is a huge baseball fan and began offering this trip in the mid 80s. Basically up and down the Eastern Seaboard for three weeks, going to a game in a major league city practically every night. My youngest (of two) brothers was a councillor (note Canadian spelling!) on this trip in about 1989.



WESTERN CANADA/DAKOTAS TRIP--1979

As for my trip, here goes:

1979 Western Canada

Being from Detroit, you might not have taken part in this, but in the weeks leading up to the trips, we had three "Get-togethers" so that the kids would get to know each other. We also had an initial meeting with the parents included (but I can't remember if this counted as one of the three or not). What I remember about the parents meeting was that George would ask us about medications, allergies, etc. and one girl kept putting up her hand. She's the girl I still keep in touch with today!

All I remember about the other meetings (without parents) is that we all sat in a circle and introduced ourselves. You would say your name and then something you liked that started with the same letter. "I'm Eric and I like the Expos." There was a kid named Shelly who'd been on the trip the year before, so he knew what you could get away with. He said "my name's Shelly and I like Shit." We all thought that was pretty funny.

These meetings were the first time we had to "Count off." I'm sure you remember that all the kids would have to count off when we got back on the bus so you'd know everyone was there. As my last name is Zweig, with a Z-W I was last in the count-off. (That's how I know for sure how many people were on each trip). As you'll probably remember, it always took about eight run-throughs before the count used to reach the end. Even if I'd gotten lost, I would have always had enough time to get back, and I used to get SOOOO bored listening to all the counting before it finally got to me. Everyone could imitate the sleepy way I would finally finish the counting off. There are probably people to this day who don't remember me anymore but could still say "33" or "42" with the same "Whatever…" tone in their voice.

My family had (still has) a cottage north of the city near the route our trip began on, and my father arranged to have the bus stop at the gas station near the highway to pick me up, rather than have us come back to the city. I'm sure everyone was thinking "who the Hell is this guy" as they pulled off the road to pick me up. We then drove north to Sudbury, where we stopped for lunch, and continued on to Sault Ste. Marie for our first night. It was about 12 hours on the bus that day!


Sarah Broder, Naomi (?), Sharon (?) and Jane Shmelzer
perform in front of our Transtario bus during an evening program.

That night, our tent was pitched beside a girl's tent and we were talking back and forth for hours. Eventually, it got too girly, so I stormed out of our tent and shouted "Who's in charge here!" George and the other councillors raced off the bus like it was a police raid. I'm sure they thought it was someone from the campsite who was going to complain about all the noise. When they saw it was just one of their own dopey campers, they threatened to make me sleep outside the tent without my sleeping bag. I actually believed they were going to do it, so I found a comfortable place and lay down. George sent me back into my tent about 10 mintues later, but he'd sure quieted the place down! I also had established my reputation as the "Camp Clown."

Our next stop was Thunder Bay, where we visted Old Fort William (an old fur trading site that the city had grown up around. I have a bunch of pictures from there. After Thunder Bay, I think we stayed at a campsite on the Lake of the Woods near Kenora.


Group shot at Old Fort William outside Thunder Bay, Ontario.
The four people in the front row are the councillors.
The only one who's name I remember is Steve Waldman.
He later married one of the girls from the trip
(so much for George's "no coupling up" rule!--rd).
Names I can recall are (l-r): Jane Shmelzer, ?, Sharon (?), Mark Lash,
Adrienne Ziegler, Shelly Adler, Sarah Broder, ?, Naomi (?) ---

It was also around here that Janice and her friend Laura spooked a bunch of us with this weird psychic game they had. They pretended they could read each other's minds and it seemed like they really could! One would hide inside a tent (so they couldn't signal each other) and the other would say "Hand over head, hand over head, hand over whose head?" Then the would inside the tent would guess who's head they had there hand over. Turned out it all had something to do with the last person to talk before we all shut up, but none of us figured that out.

Soon after we crossed into Manitoba. We stayed in our first hotel in Winnipeg. We stayed in Winnipeg for a few days, but the only thing I really remember was the day we spent at the Winnipeg Folk Festival. I have pictures of that too.

We crossed Manitoba and into Saskatchewan, staying at a gorgeous campgrounds in Cypress Hills Provincial Park. A few days later, we were into Alberta. We camped in Calgary for a couple of days, then in Banff for a few more. (I was back in both those places this past spring for the first time since 1979).


Main entrance to the Calgary Stampede. Note all the
ugly yellow Caravan t-shirts behind the policeman.

The other thing I remember about this part of the trip was that I had to go to the hospital after Shelly (who liked shit) accidentally pushed me off a fence. From Banff, we crossed into British Columbia, but only for part of the day.


Ron (Colb?) and Debbie (Brillstein?) in the old-time prison in the
museum section at the RCMP headquarters in Regina.

Soon, we crossed the U.S. border into North Dakota. We stayed at a nice campground there and I have never seen as many stars as we saw in the sky there. We also had a park ranger who told us camping stories. I remember Janice telling me years later how creepy she thought the guy was.


Me at age 16 (most people on both my trips were 15 or 16 years old),
picking George Washington's nose on the minature replica of
Mount Rushmore in the town of Wall, South Dakota.
This is actually from the 1980 trip.

We crossed into Minnesota and stayed in a camp ground outside Minneapolis. The Blue Jays were playing the Twins in a doubleheader. I was a huge baseball fan, and (since George was too) I was able to talk the group into staying for both games. I also knew the Jays radio guys a bit and got myself on the radio back to Toronto between games. My family was listening up at the cottage.

Then we went to Wisconsin. All throughout the trip, George had been telling us that we'd ride on ducks when we got to Wisconsin. None of us knew that the hell that could been. Turned out they were some sort of old army surplus amphibious vehicles at an amusement park in Wisconsin Dells. I also remember a really cool mini motor bike track we could race on and the fact that Shelly got knocked down at the plate by a batting practice pitching machine! We stayed at a campground called Jellystone Park and Sheldon Crystal and I saw a guy in a Yogi Bear suit. No one else saw him, and no one else ever believed we actually did!

From Wisconsin, it was a short ride to Chicago, where we stayed in the seediest hotel I had ever (or have ever) stayed in. I think it was called the Ascot (I thought it was the Essex?--rd). Other than my two Caravan trips, I've never been back to Chicago, though I really loved it there!


NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TO SAN FRANCISCO TRIP--1980

Details from Eric's 1980 trip:
I don't actually remember one rainy day on my two trips, but you'd have to think there were some. I do remember sleeping on the bus, though. We were in a campground near Sacramento and the ground was all covered with hay. I'm allergic to hay and could barely breathe inside our tent! George put me in the bus to sleep and it helped.

I also remember that we travelled overnight for a couple of days through parts of Nevada and Utah. It was really hot and the air conditioning in the bus had broken down. You could barely sit in the thing during the day! My memories of Nevada are that we stayed at campgrounds in towns called Elko and Winnemucca. We also stayed in a motel in Carson City. What a hole! Can't believe it's the state capitol! (Which RV is the governor's mansion?). Reno's pretty seedy too. We also stayed in a motel in Salt Lake City. What a strange place! The area around the Mormon Tabernacle is beautiful, but what I remember most is that you can't get anyone to deliver pizza in Salt Lake City after 10 pm!


Ricky Herlick performing the ceremonial cutting of the sanitary ribbon on the
toilet of our hotel room in Salt Lake City.

We went to a bunch of rodeos on our trips too. The Calgary Stampede on the first trip, and one at a country fair in Cheyenne, Wyoming (Frontier Days?). Maybe a few more. We also visited Yellowstone Park and Mount Rushmore on the North California trip.


Mount Rushmore. You don't usually see it pictured like this.
When you're actually there the President's heads take up a
much smaller section of the mountain than most people expect.
Also, there's all that rubble from the carving.

Yellowstone Park was really beautiful. One morning, a buffalo was standing right beside our bus and I also saw a female moose walking her babies. Of course, there were also unbelievably smelly sulphur springs. We also stayed at Grand Tetons park in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I used to be a skier back then and would have loved to have gone back in the winter.


A group shot in front of the sulphur fields at Yellowstone National Park.
We are, from l-r: (Standing) ?, Gail Greenberg, Bev Stitt, ?, ?, Cheryl Rosen.
(The guys in this row were from suburban Detroit, but I can't remember their names!).
(Seated), Me, Andi Sterling, Sheldon Crystal, David (last name ???).

Though I don't remember many specifics, I loved San Francisco (went there on my honeymoon). We stayed for four days, I think. We were in a campground near Sausalito (sp?) and would drive into the city every day. One thing I do remember is that our entire group got on a cable car and a bunch of people were sooo rowdy that the driver threw us off. I was the only one who had actually paid the fare before we got tossed (I'm pretty sure it was 50 cents) and I was pissed!

Finally, thought I'd give you some of the names I can recall from my two trips. There was (in no particular order, except how they pop back into my mind): Shelly Adler, Adrian Ziegler, Debbie Ziegler, Janice Lester, Laura Wolfson, Jeff Weiss, Bobby Bloom, Sheldon Crystal, Ron Colb, Felice Jaeger, Jane Shmelzer, Sarah Broder, Franklin Young, Jeffrey Pike, Nina Heft, Andi Sperling, Cheryl Rosen, Zev and Chaim (two brothers, whose last name I can't recall), Ricky Herlick, Gail Greenberg.

Keep heading down the road, or... Get off the bus.